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7 year old un-spayed yellow Lab (interest in cats normal, or is she stalking for prey)?
Hi again;
Today, I encountered something that caused me concern again (with our newly adopted seniour yellow lab), or should it have?… Since we brought home the yellow Lab just over 2 weeks ago, one of our 2 cats, hasn’t been coming ‘out’ to see our ‘new’ dog very much (she’s a bit more skiddish than the other cat). Today, she was sitting in the den (on top of the couch), & the yellow lab approached the couch, interested in her, & at my ’shhh!’, turned & went around the coffee table, into the hallway, & back around the same way again (looking again, at the cat). I stood watching from the stairway, as the Lab did this several times. She just kept circling the same exact pattern, I just described, ears perked, tail wagging, very interested in the cat (& if I felt concern her intentions weren’t good, I’d ’shh!’ her again (or say ‘No!’) & she’d move on, but doing the same thing, over & over again). Is this a normal way for her to get used to the newly noticed member of the pack, or is she stalking her?… waiting for an opportunity to pounce? When I was out of the room, something happened between the Lab & the other cat, but I only came up on the cat skidding away & acting afraid, & the dog standing there with her ears perked, looking at me as if to say ‘What??’… I put her on the landing, & secured the baby gate & made sure the cat was okay, & then cuddled the cat, showing her, he’s a member of the pack, too. I hope that was the right way to handle it. I’m not sure if the dog is just curious, & the cat just got nervous & overreacted, & I shouldn’t be too concerned about it all, or if the dog has a higher prey drive than I think, & has other intentions?…
I’m an avid ‘Dog Wisperer’ watcher, but not an ‘very’ experienced dog owner. We only had one dog for 3 years, (before these 2) that we had adopted from the spca as a seniour, & we recently lost him due to a Mass Cell Tumour. We adopted the 2nd one from the spca a few weeks later, & the yellow lab was being given away through Kijiji & I thought it would be nice to give another seniour dog another loving home, too. I want to make sure we are handling all the situations we encounter properly, with the other dog & the cats, that’s why I’m posting questions at every turn.
Thank you for all of your time, & help with all of my questions. I’ll look forward to hearing from you.
From my experience if a dog is going to attack a cat in a vicious manner this would already had been done and over with.
I think she is curious. If she wanted to kill the cat you would be burying it.
Thank you for rescuing!
Launi *Troll is back* Shoot it. | Feb 02, 2010
Good for you for recognizing the behavior.
So many people mistake the unusual interest and stalking for "love".
My sister made this mistake with one of her dogs. Thought he LOVED the kitten. He was always watching it, wagging his tail, following it, showing unusual interest. She had the kitten for a few weeks and this behavior continued.
She went out one night and came home to a dead kitten. The dog had killed it. He had just waited for his opportunity.
Do you or your cats need this kind of aggraviation or tragedy in the making?
There are so many nice dogs, dogs that get along with cats, that need homes.
Why not return this dog to where you got it from and select a more suitable dog for your household.
I think making your cats guinea pigs-and putting their life at risk for this experiment-is irresponsible.
ADD: I see you got this dog from a private party. Hopefully they will do the right thing and take this dog back. If not take it to your local SPCA and place him there.
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I found this article interesting……
Introducing Dogs & Cats
Much of this is based upon my father’s experiences with field dogs for over 40 years and my own personal experiences with my four current GSDs, six cats and five parrots. He relied on a dog’s normal pack instinct and instinct to possess. It nearly always worked. And he didn’t lose a cat or hurt one of his dogs in the process. The dogs weren’t cowered into accepting the cats, but given the opportunity to recognize individuals as part of their environment rather than prey by taking advantage of natural pack and possessive behaviors. And he was working with Field and Cocker Spaniels whose intelligence, trainability, and instinct to possess is not nearly that of a German Shepherd Dog (to put it mildly).
Being a cat owner and lover, when someone asks me if one of our dogs likes cats, my first thought is, "yes, for breakfast, lunch, dinner and a midnight snack". Even dogs who have lived in a home with cats are unpredictable in a new home setting for several reasons: cats all react differently to dogs, a dog may have felt a sense of possession of a specific cat (or any other pet) in its previous home, or the dog may be taking its cue from an alpha (who "possesses" the cat).
A dog’s ability to live with a specific cat does not mean that it is "good" with all cats. It may mean that the dog has no prey drive, but it could also mean that the dog "possessed" a specific cat, or lived where an alpha possessed a specific cat(s). A dog can live with cat(s) while still maintaining prey drive around all other cats; this is because the dog considers the cat a possession or a packmate, not prey. It doesn’t lump all cats into one basket and treat them all alike. Pack hassling over position can even spill over into fights over (or attacks upon) the "possession" (i.e. take-away).
There’s some basic principles in order for a dog and cat (or bunny or bird or whatever) to be able to live together:
1) A German Shepherd Dog’s instinct to possess overrides its prey drive. But this is not true for some other breeds such as terriers, sighthounds and Ridgebacks.
2) A dog will accept a cat (or other animal) either as a possession or a pack mate if opportunity for interaction is given where the dog cannot see the cat as prey.
3) The dog must accept its owner as "alpha" and take its cue on how to treat the cat(s) from the owner. The owner, however, should not be perceived as "possessing" the cat.
The plan that follows will not to stop the dog from chasing all cats. It works to establish a sense of "pack" and possession of the cat in the dog’s mind. The steps below allow the dog and cat to interact in a controlled manner in order to establish a sense of possession in the dog while keeping the cat safe while this process is underway. I value my cats’ safety so I take no chances.
Steps
All these steps are important and they need to be done in order. It’s easier to introduce a dog to a cat who has never been threatened by a dog because the cat will interact with the dog more quickly, but this works for existing situations once the cat realizes it’s safe. Some cats are easier to work with than others as well.
You do not want your dog to believe that you are possessing the cat- the dog must feel that he or she possesses the cat. Otherwise, the dog can see the cat as something to try to steal away from its owner, especially if there is any question of the owner being the pack "alpha".
During the learning process, the dog must never be allowed to chase the cat(s) or to play games that put it in prey drive while the cat is present. If this isn’t done, the process will not work. Work with one dog at a time if possible.
1) The owner of the dog must become the alpha dog in the household. The dog has to realize that it is not alpha and must take its cues from the human pack members as to who it accepts. The owner needs to have established a level of control without creating a robo-dog.
2) When the dog is introduced to the household, the cats are shut away in another room. This is also true if you are introducing a cat into a household with dogs. There are no exceptions at all. Especially don’t carry a cat in your arms if a dog is loose. This can be dangerous for cat, dog and human. A child should never ever carry a cat or small animal in its arms around a loose dog.
3) When the cats are allowed out freely to roam without human supervision, the dog must be outside or where it cannot see the cat. It cannot be inside in a crate where it can see and/or bark or lunge at the cat without correction. This is vital and the entire process will not work if this isn’t done properly.
4) Shut the dog in its crate and allow the cat(s) out hopefully to walk past the dog crate. If the dog barks or lunges within the crate, the dog is verbally corrected. Make sure that the cats are in another room behind a closed door before letting the dog have its time out of the crate. I’m not talking about keeping the dog in the crate all the time, it’s more keeping the cats in another room most of the time. The dog is crated while the cats are out, and then let out of the crate for most of the time. This may take several days or weeks to accomplish. It depends on how quickly the cat comes around to the dog’s crate area (which should be with the family).
5) Do not comfort, pet or fuss over the cats where the dog can see it from his crate. Especially don’t do this after the dog has barked or lunged at the cat. Correct only the dog. This is because you do not want the dog to see the cat as your possession.
6) Accustom the dog to a muzzle while it is hanging out in its crate. It will be muzzled when it goes to the vet or is groomed (even if we don’t see it, it happens), so this way the dog is used to a muzzle. Leave it on for 10 – 15 minutes at a time if it isn’t hot. If it’s hot, the dog must not be muzzled because it can’t pant. The muzzle is only a temporary tool. But the muzzle must be used for the cat’s sake.
7) After 10-14 days where the dog does not bark or lunge at the cat and the cat is comfortable walking around the crate, it’s show time!
Put a prong collar with a six foot leash on the dog. Don’t forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is why you have the dog muzzled). If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your voice and the collar. This is important – the correction must be physically very strong – not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need to be corrected at all).
Do not correct the dog for sniffing at the cat. Sniffing is very good and is to be encouraged. Attention barking is also okay. The dog will feel any nervousness or tension of the owner via the leash and feed off of it, so it’s important to be calm. That’s also why the muzzle is on the dog – the owner knows the cat is safe no matter what. Do this for about 5-10 minutes at first, then put the dog or cat away. Try to be observant to end the session while both dog and cat are doing well. You can spin out the time until its an hour or so.
9) Each time the dog first sees the cat, it gets a food treat. Cat = a cookie. If the dog is showing too much interest in the cat (like scenting for it), distract the dog by giving it something else to do, like a sit or heel with praise for doing what you’ve told it to do rather than automatically giving it a cookie. You can’t reward the dog for not chasing the cat but you can reward it for doing something you’ve asked of it.
10) There is no playing ball, running or chasing about the house, either by dogs, cats or humans while the dog and cat are out together. This is because care needs to be taken to see that the dog doesn’t go into prey drive. This needs to continue throughout this entire process.
11) Supervise the interaction and after 7-10 days where the dog has not had to be corrected, the prong and leash control can be eliminated. Even if you never had to correct the dog, it’s important to wait 7-10 days. Leave on the muzzle. The dog and cat are not left unsupervised. If the dog chases the cat during this period, it’s back to item #8.
12) After about four-six weeks where the owner has not observed any prey drive in the dog towards its cat, it is time to do without the muzzle. Interaction should still be supervised and the two animals never left alone unless there is a place for the cat to go to safety. If you’ve got a dog who is po
UHave2BeKiddingMe | Feb 02, 2010
Sounds like normal curiosity. You can tell from an animals stance if aggression is playing into their actions. Labs tend not to be aggressive. Because the cat seems to be shy with the lab, it’s making the lab even more curious!
If the dog wanted to hurt the cat, it would have already!
Chieffoxtail | Feb 02, 2010
i’m sorry but if you watch the Dog Whisperer you would know this thousands of times.. do not use these methods without consulting a PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER.. (or something in that sense) the shh thing won’t work… Since your dog is showing a Hunting instinct, i would highly speak to the place where you have gotten him from. It’s not easy to untrain a dog from a natural bahaviour. I would re-consider a different dog, or find a REAL dog trainer, besides one on a TV or a pet store. Your cat can get seriously hurt if she decides to pop out and dog just happens to be there and she’s cornered. It could be a very ugly mess from both of them.
Field Labs do it Best! | Feb 02, 2010
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